Idea: revive payphone call?

[austinhuang0131]

The idea is:

• Add a >pcall/>pdial as well as >prcall/>prdial command that allows servers to call others without setting up a number.
  • The caller ID will simply show up as A payphone. The number would be (0500) 000-0000, same as previously used in v1.
  • A message would cost 4 credits each (or otherwise necessarily higher than the cost of a >message), to be decided. Users should be alerted when they place a payphone call about how many messages they can send. (Of course, if it does not bother too much to establish a per-minute rate, then that can also do)
  • To prevent abuse, the channel ID must be recorded in the call. As well, >backdoor feature should accommodate this.
• To reward adoption of DTel and facilitate the aforementioned feature, a 100-credit initial balance (Or otherwise, an amount between 80 and 160 credits) should be provided.

Opinion required

[Rexogamer]

i guess this could be like a “trial” feature

[Mitchell3514]

What is the difference between pdial and prdial?
Also, shouldn't this be a fider thing? (+look at UC/SC suggestion)

Thoughts:

• Nice way of getting people started with the bot. Currently, some invite the bot and then don't make a number and kick the bot.
• The free credits should already be a thing
• New currency type: Phone Credits, allowing you to make a pcall for free (or like 1PC = 5min), give 1(+) to new users to let them use pdial for free.

Implementation problems/questions:

• Does the >pcall instigator pay for the messages of other users on their side in that call?
• Should we make pcalls use SC (see fider)?

Can we please turn code into classes before this makes it messier thnx

[Rexogamer]

can we like make the bot code not a mess before we start adding major new features?

also there should be a limit (per server maybe) on how much you can use it before the bot says “ok, get a number”

[Mitchell3514]

can we like make the bot code not a mess before we start adding major new features?

Yes, classes

[Mitchell3514]

@austinhuang0131

[LaNgOStInode]

I wasn't here forever, so I don't actually know what the original payphone was like. However, payphones indicate someone is being paid (hence pay-) I get that much. Who would be getting paid? If the price was 4 DTS, would stated person be paid 2? What's the function of >backdoor?

What is the difference between pdial and prdial?

I also want to know this 👍

• New currency type: Phone Credits, allowing you to make a pcall for free (or like 1PC = 5min), give 1(+) to new users to let them use pdial for free.

What would the point be for PAYphone be then? Would Phone Credits be a new Discoin currency? Going off the logic that the price of one of these is 4 DTS, would Phone Credits pay stated person 2 DTS? Wouldn't Phone Credits be farmable if they appeared 1 per 5 minutes, because you can just stay AFK and get them easily? Something else would be more efficient, like having to convert in order to get DPC/DTC (unofficial acronyms I made up), or having a lootbox system or including it in '>daily'? Last point I have to talk about is what if the people being paid use a DPC/DTC? If the idea from earlier was put into effect, then people getting paid could just use their credits and easily get 2 DTS. Not much, but think about it. Repetitive farming would eventually result in 500 DTC, and if it was a conversion currency, then you could get large amounts of credits at a time by converting from other currencies and then start farming (not implying that strategy would be ideal, just saying it's a possibility.)

[Rexogamer]

payphone doesn't pay anyone, it's basically an alternative for those not willing to spend 500 credits on a number iirc

[Mitchell3514]

payphone doesn't pay anyone, it's basically an alternative for those not willing to spend 500 credits on a number iirc

This is correct.
Also >backdoor allows us to join a server if necessary for customer support issues. (see our TOS)

@LaNgOStInode

[LaNgOStInode]

payphone doesn't pay anyone, it's basically an alternative for those not willing to spend 500 credits on a number iirc

oh so it's like they're paying to a phone company
makes sense

This is correct.
Also >backdoor allows us to join a server if necessary for customer support issues. (see our TOS)

@LaNgOStInode

ok, also makes sense :)

[LaNgOStInode]

thanks for clearing things up about that

[turret-dev]

Also >backdoor allows us to join a server if necessary for customer support issues. (see our TOS)

if this idea is added, then we should have the TOS changed from "by having a number" to "by using dtel's call command"

[Mitchell3514]

There will either be a payphone-like system in v4 or it won't be necessary as setting up a number becomes trivial.

[Rexogamer]

on second thoughts this seems a bit... pointless. the first month of a number is free, and if you want to keep using it you can easily use >daily enough times to get enough credits to renew. while you do have to actually make a number, which not everyone in a server can do, you'd need someone to actually add the bot in the first place and therefore they can just set one up. i also think moderation with this would be... a bit confusing - one shared number that constantly changes channel?

while having a feature to trial dtel is certainly an interesting and potentially good idea, my main conclusion is that for a little bit of setup you can get more features for a month at no cost and then an easily payable fee. i'm not entirely sure on this one.