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[Arcs] Self-hit that cannot be assigned (Judge, Truce) #82

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turmoilbyrd opened this issue Nov 18, 2024 · 4 comments
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[Arcs] Self-hit that cannot be assigned (Judge, Truce) #82

turmoilbyrd opened this issue Nov 18, 2024 · 4 comments
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arcs Issue for Arcs errata Errata is confirmed and needs to be entered into production files

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turmoilbyrd commented Nov 18, 2024

Discussion https://discord.com/channels/476234833572397056/963112189802201108/1308084671132729364

Assume:

  • Judge is a regent
  • Judge's Chosen is a regent
  • There is some imperial ships watching

In a battle, JC chooses to battle with Judge's ships, and rolled self-hit.

The way Truce Law is written:

Regents cannot harm Imperial ships except for hits they take as attacking ships in battle...

implies self-hit as attacker is also harm

So there can be a situation where the JC needs to assign self-hit but cannot due to Truce law. How to resolve this situation?

@turmoilbyrd turmoilbyrd changed the title [Arcs] Self-hit that cannot be assigned [Arcs] Self-hit that cannot be assigned (Judge, Truce) Nov 18, 2024
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turmoilbyrd commented Nov 18, 2024

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turmoilbyrd commented Dec 19, 2024

Possible solutions:

  • They cannot start this battle at all (the battle cannot happen because it may harm Judge's ships?)
  • Just ignore the self hits (this is the so called "magic shield" argument and imo probably wrong)
  • 👉(IMO most plausible) Redefine self-hit as not harming. Because thematically self-hits are hits done by the defender. So it's not the responsibility of the Judge's Chosen

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jdyearsley commented Dec 19, 2024

Yes, self-hits should not be defined as harm for the reasons you stated. I'll add some errata to the campaign rulebook.

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@jdyearsley jdyearsley added errata Errata is confirmed and needs to be entered into production files arcs Issue for Arcs labels Dec 19, 2024
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Yes, self-hits should not be defined as harm for the reasons you stated. I'll add some errata to the campaign rulebook.

Also intercept, obviously

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